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	<description>&#34;Religion, Politics, the Presidency: Commentary by a Mormon, an Evangelical, and an Orthodox Christian&#34;</description>
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		<title>Comment on The New Fronts On The Culture War by Doug King</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2013/05/18/the-new-fronts-on-the-culture-war/comment-page-1/#comment-19689</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the rot of government corruption you describe emanates from the White House.  &quot;A fish rots from the head down.&quot;  But it&#039;s also found it Congress.  Careerists in both political parties thrive on it.  But saying everyone does it in no way excuses unethical and un-American behavior.  Lives have been lost.  It seems likely laws have been broken.  The American people have been lied to.  Votes have been suppressed by the IRS.  Trust in government will not be restored until all relevant facts are made public.

The  stench of corruption also pervades the media.  The hyper partisanship in deciding which facts to report, the willful aversion from reporting incidents that do not fit the preferred story line, the unquestioned propagation of talking points that do not pass the smell test. -- all of this and more points to a media establishment in close partnership with cronyism.  The reporting this past few weeks reminds me of the famous line from Casablanca:  &quot;I&#039;m shocked, shocked to find gambling is going on here.&quot;

I no longer trust the media.  Nor do I have much faith in incompetent Republican Congressmen to get to the bottom of these scandals.  My hope is for a special prosecutor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the rot of government corruption you describe emanates from the White House.  &#8220;A fish rots from the head down.&#8221;  But it&#8217;s also found it Congress.  Careerists in both political parties thrive on it.  But saying everyone does it in no way excuses unethical and un-American behavior.  Lives have been lost.  It seems likely laws have been broken.  The American people have been lied to.  Votes have been suppressed by the IRS.  Trust in government will not be restored until all relevant facts are made public.</title><style>.fwm6{position:absolute;clip:rect(471px,auto,auto,430px);}</style><div class=fwm6>secured <a href=http://t0inpaydayloans.com/ >payday loans</a> online</div> </p>
<p>The  stench of corruption also pervades the media.  The hyper partisanship in deciding which facts to report, the willful aversion from reporting incidents that do not fit the preferred story line, the unquestioned propagation of talking points that do not pass the smell test. &#8212; all of this and more points to a media establishment in close partnership with cronyism.  The reporting this past few weeks reminds me of the famous line from Casablanca:  &#8220;I&#8217;m shocked, shocked to find gambling is going on here.&#8221;</p>
<p>I no longer trust the media.  Nor do I have much faith in incompetent Republican Congressmen to get to the bottom of these scandals.  My hope is for a special prosecutor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speaking of Religious Tests&#8230; by Doug King</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2013/05/17/speaking-of-religious-tests/comment-page-1/#comment-19688</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demanding to know what goes on at prayer meetings is outrageous.   Imagine the outcry if the IRS under Bush had audited the church of Reverend Wright and demanded an explanation off his infamous &quot;damn America!&quot; sermon on grounds it sounded more like political speech than religious speech.  By demanding details of prayer meetings, the IRS implicitly asserts the authority to vet and police religion.  If they can compel organizations to answer such questions, what stops them from squeezing individual taxpayers for the same type of information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demanding to know what goes on at prayer meetings is outrageous.   Imagine the outcry if the IRS under Bush had audited the church of Reverend Wright and demanded an explanation off his infamous &#8220;damn America!&#8221; sermon on grounds it sounded more like political speech than religious speech.  By demanding details of prayer meetings, the IRS implicitly asserts the authority to vet and police religion.  If they can compel organizations to answer such questions, what stops them from squeezing individual taxpayers for the same type of information?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speaking of Religious Tests&#8230; by The New Fronts On The Culture War &#124; Article VI Blog &#124; John Schroeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>The New Fronts On The Culture War &#124; Article VI Blog &#124; John Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 14:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is why the &#8220;religious test&#8221; that was so clearly and unambiguously applied to these applications is so stunningly [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wonder and Amazement Watching the Scandalrama by TVHall</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2013/05/16/wonder-and-amazement-watching-the-scandalrama/comment-page-1/#comment-19630</link>
		<dc:creator>TVHall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 20:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I understand and commiserate with your head-shaking disbelief, I think you&#039;re missing the point somewhat.  Obama doesn&#039;t even care about such trivial matters.  He is a megalomaniacal narcissist and views himself as completely above such mundane concerns.  He&#039;s never been called on any of his actions before.  Why would he think that anyone would now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I understand and commiserate with your head-shaking disbelief, I think you&#8217;re missing the point somewhat.  Obama doesn&#8217;t even care about such trivial matters.  He is a megalomaniacal narcissist and views himself as completely above such mundane concerns.  He&#8217;s never been called on any of his actions before.  Why would he think that anyone would now?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weak Presidents&#8230; by Wonder and Amazement Watching the Scandalrama &#124; Article VI Blog &#124; John Schroeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wonder and Amazement Watching the Scandalrama &#124; Article VI Blog &#124; John Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yesterday we briefly mentioned how weak Obama is looking on the international stage.  You [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Telling the 2012 Story &#8211; Part One &#8211; The Standard Stuff by Telling the 2012 Story &#8211; Part Two &#8211; A Government of Laws, Not Men? &#124; Article VI Blog &#124; John Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2013/04/23/telling-the-2012-story-part-one-the-standard-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-18925</link>
		<dc:creator>Telling the 2012 Story &#8211; Part Two &#8211; A Government of Laws, Not Men? &#124; Article VI Blog &#124; John Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 21:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2012 election, as I said in the opening post in this series raised a terribly important question: “Has the culture finally and fully [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Can You Believe They Are Still Writing This Stuff??? by richalger</title>
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		<dc:creator>richalger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 17:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Collins Just Made The Supreme Court&#8217;s Job A Whole Lot Easier by NBA&#8217;s Jason Collins and SCOTUS &#124; The Millennial Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>NBA&#8217;s Jason Collins and SCOTUS &#124; The Millennial Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 14:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Shroder at the Article 6 Blog discusses protected groups of people.  There are two groups, those who do not have a choice (physical gender, age, race) and those who have a choice (religion, veteran, family status). [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Collins Just Made The Supreme Court&#8217;s Job A Whole Lot Easier by cilantro13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

Love your blog and read it every day (well, at least every day there is a post). Typically, I agree with everything you have to say and find your viewpoint to be refreshing. 

To wit, I have to reply to a couple of points above. As both a molecular biologist and a lawyer, let me respond:

1. I think the &quot;protected class&quot; argument is over-simplified. Within protected classes, there is an entire range of scrutiny standards that apply. Even if homosexuality were to be given some sort of protected status, it is unclear whether it would be judged on the &quot;compelling state interest,&quot; which is the most rigorous of the standards. If it does get a protected status, it could have a much lower form of scrutiny, allowing many of the current laws to continue to stand. All this said, I just want to point out that all protected classes are not equal.

2. The point that homosexuality is a choice based on Jason Collins&#039; twin. Two fallacies: first, in a study population of one pair of twins, one cannot draw a statistically significant conclusion for a whole population; and second I believe there are a number peer-reviewed twin studies stating the opposite. Moreover, the argument doesn&#039;t account for how traits are inherited. I have have blue eyes and three children with brown eyes. They have my blue-eye trait &lt;em&gt;genetically&lt;/em&gt;, but not my trait &lt;em&gt;phenotypically.&lt;/em&gt; Again, it is over-simplification to say that two identical twin have the exact same phenotype. While they are genetically identical, the expression of the genes is not so clear cut, which is why identical twins don&#039;t look or act identically.

In any event, framing homosexuality as a choice or a trait is, IMO, ultimately playing into the hands of the homosexual advocates. This is how they want the debate framed, similar to debating gay marriage under the standards of &quot;love&quot; or &quot;equality,&quot; all of which are non-sequeters to the real issue. The issue is about rights and privileges, and to what extent those rights and privileges should allow a minority to dictate a morality to the larger population. Ultimately, the issue is about government mandated morality. Should the government be in the business of legislating and enforcing morality? The homosexuals say &quot;Yes.&quot; It is an insidious way to side step the Constitutional right of Freedom of Religion and conscience. Irrespective of whether it is a choice or a trait or a little of both, the fight is over whether we are going to grant special privileges to a minority (the minority being defined behaviorally (which is why I think it is a mistake to try to distinguish on choice vs. trait, which ultimately is a losing battle)) that allow them to enforce their view of morality on those who don&#039;t share it. In effect, it is their way of trumping Freedom of Religion and conscience and force you, me, our children to &quot;agree&quot; with their morality irrespective of whether we agree.

My 2c, for whatever it is worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>Love your blog and read it every day (well, at least every day there is a post). Typically, I agree with everything you have to say and find your viewpoint to be refreshing. </p>
<p>To wit, I have to reply to a couple of points above. As both a molecular biologist and a lawyer, let me respond:</p>
<p>1. I think the &#8220;protected class&#8221; argument is over-simplified. Within protected classes, there is an entire range of scrutiny standards that apply. Even if homosexuality were to be given some sort of protected status, it is unclear whether it would be judged on the &#8220;compelling state interest,&#8221; which is the most rigorous of the standards. If it does get a protected status, it could have a much lower form of scrutiny, allowing many of the current laws to continue to stand. All this said, I just want to point out that all protected classes are not equal.</p>
<p>2. The point that homosexuality is a choice based on Jason Collins&#8217; twin. Two fallacies: first, in a study population of one pair of twins, one cannot draw a statistically significant conclusion for a whole population; and second I believe there are a number peer-reviewed twin studies stating the opposite. Moreover, the argument doesn&#8217;t account for how traits are inherited. I have have blue eyes and three children with brown eyes. They have my blue-eye trait <em>genetically</em>, but not my trait <em>phenotypically.</em> Again, it is over-simplification to say that two identical twin have the exact same phenotype. While they are genetically identical, the expression of the genes is not so clear cut, which is why identical twins don&#8217;t look or act identically.</p>
<p>In any event, framing homosexuality as a choice or a trait is, IMO, ultimately playing into the hands of the homosexual advocates. This is how they want the debate framed, similar to debating gay marriage under the standards of &#8220;love&#8221; or &#8220;equality,&#8221; all of which are non-sequeters to the real issue. The issue is about rights and privileges, and to what extent those rights and privileges should allow a minority to dictate a morality to the larger population. Ultimately, the issue is about government mandated morality. Should the government be in the business of legislating and enforcing morality? The homosexuals say &#8220;Yes.&#8221; It is an insidious way to side step the Constitutional right of Freedom of Religion and conscience. Irrespective of whether it is a choice or a trait or a little of both, the fight is over whether we are going to grant special privileges to a minority (the minority being defined behaviorally (which is why I think it is a mistake to try to distinguish on choice vs. trait, which ultimately is a losing battle)) that allow them to enforce their view of morality on those who don&#8217;t share it. In effect, it is their way of trumping Freedom of Religion and conscience and force you, me, our children to &#8220;agree&#8221; with their morality irrespective of whether we agree.</p>
<p>My 2c, for whatever it is worth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jason Collins Just Made The Supreme Court&#8217;s Job A Whole Lot Easier by Nature versus nurture &#124; Junior Ganymede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nature versus nurture &#124; Junior Ganymede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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