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December 15th 2007

Krauthammer Cries ‘No Mas’


Charles Krauthammer wrote a column yesterday that said everybody was dipping too deeply into the well of religiousity this election cycle.

This campaign is knee-deep in religion, and it’s only going to get worse. I’d thought that the limits of professed public piety had already been achieved during the Republican CNN/YouTube debate when some squirrelly looking guy held up a Bible and asked, “Do you believe every word of this book?” — and not one candidate dared reply: None of your damn business.

Instead, Giuliani, Romney and Huckabee bent a knee and tried appeasement with various interpretations of scriptural literalism. The right answer, the only answer, is that the very question is offensive. The Constitution prohibits any religious test for office. And while that proscribes only government action, the law is also meant to be a teacher.

Krauthammer saves special mention for Romney. This is because The Speech was far and away the most reasonable utterance by a candidate in the subject to date, but the point Krauthammer makes refers to my biggest and only serious “wince point” in the whole Speech:

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December 8th 2007

Yes, There Are More Reaction Pieces (UPDATED)


OK, for regular readers, this week should have demonstrated the REAL reason we have argued against a speech - trying to do this blog’s task this week has been overwhelming. (Please remember Lowell and I, and those that help us - Sonja, Dale, Asher - have “day jobs” that pay actual bills.) [Lowell: Well, we used to, at least. ;-)] Anyway, things seemed to have slowed down for the weekend. Maybe things can return to “normal” by Monday. The blue box will contain the latest through the weekend. There are a few pieces of note this Saturday morning.

Some things are not helpful . . .

The Los Angeles Times does a piece on Evangelical reaction:

But will it help Romney, a Mormon, win over the key voting bloc of conservative Christians?

The broad consensus: probably not.

“I’m not sure it’s going to work for evangelical voters,” said Collin Hansen, editor-at-large at the evangelical monthly Christianity Today. “Pure and simple, there are very dramatic differences” between the Mormon faith and other Christian traditions. “People wonder, does he really believe that — and if so, can I really trust him?”

What Romney’s speech did is draw a line in the sand. He spoke about the great American traditions of religious freedom and tolerance. He pointed out, simply, that if as a religious person you wish to participate in the great American discussion, you’d better be on the right side of the line.

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December 7th 2007

The Reaction Keeps Rolling


I am fairly sure that no speech ever given by a candidate before a single primary vote has even been cast has ever received anywhere near this amount of coverage and commentary. It’s extraordinary. As has been true all week, the blue box at right is a “ticker” of sorts for you to follow most of what is worth reading and in this space we look at stuff we deem worthy of quote or comment.

In general the “good speech” commentary is outweighing the “bad speech” commentary significantly; however, the vast majority of the positive commentary is of the “Yes, but…” variety. Some of that is just the nature of commentary in general, “AMENS” do not appear as serious thought.

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November 3rd 2007

Ramesh Ponnuru, Pragmatism, and Principle

Our post below drew this response from Ramesh Ponnuru on NRO.   I had argued that conservatives should be very reluctant to elevate pragmatic concerns above principle.  In Romney's case, Ramesh's pragmatic concern is that the Governor's Mormonism will be an impediment to his election.  That should not be so, Ramesh avers, but it is; and Republicans need to accept that reality.  The GOP already has enough obstacles to winning in 2008, and should not take on yet another by nominating a Mormon.

I want to be fair to Ramesh; I think I have captured his argument.  Here is what we initially wrote in response to his first post:

As John has argued for months now on this blog, once conservatives — especially religious conservative like Ponnuru– start to accept such morally lame reasoning, we open the door to the same reasoning being used against other religious candidates.

Let's play my favorite religious-bias game with the Ponnuru pull-quote above:  Imagine we are in a time when anti-Catholic or even anti-Evangelical bias is running high.  Then replace the word "Mormon" in the quote with "Catholic" or "Evangelical."  How does that feel?

My position: It is simply wrong to argue that a candidate should not be nominated for president solely because his religion will be used against him in the general election.  It is odious and un-American, and conservatives should not support or adopt such an argument in the name of pragmatism.  At the very least, we should rail against it. 

Ramesh's reply

But let's be clear-eyed and honest here. It has never been a conservative principle that voters should not take candidates' religion into account, and it has certainly never been a conservative principle that we should nominate people without regard to whether their religion poses a political problem.

Now for my rejoinder:  I fear Ramesh has missed my point entirely;  I argued nothing of the kind.  Now, there is plenty to say about the political thinking underlying Ramesh's conclusion, and he himself concedes in his latest post that some of those arguments are "persuasive."  I'm primarily talking about what's right and wrong in the context of the positions with which conservatives ally themselves. 

There's a funny thing about taking the wrong side on the great questions:  Doing so tends to come back and bite you later.  John and I think that once we acquiesce to such accommodation of bigotry, we will find the bigotry coming back at us in unwelcome but predictable ways, such as Bill O'Reilly's October 31 grilling of Mike Huckabee about whether Huckabee believes literally in Adam and Eve, and about whether a deeply religious person like Huckabee can be elected president.  Ramesh did not respond to that concern.

As far as we know, no presidential candidate has ever been asked detailed questions about his religious beliefs.  We simply think it's a very bad idea to start doing that now, and that conservatives will be sorry if we stand by and let it happen without loud and sustained protest.

John chimes in:

Ramesh argues:

The Republican party has never nominated a Catholic for president, and for large parts of American history that was the reasonable thing to do. (Should we have run a Catholic in 1860?)

Well, for one thing this is 2007!  Different world — particularly when it comes to religion and politics.  But here is the key question for me - nearly everyone, though not Ramesh to my knowledge, though it seems implicit in his argument, concedes that absent Mormonism, Romney is the perfect Republican candidate.  How many stories have we linked to here that began just that way - "His matinee idol good looks, his conservative stances, he seems born to be the Republican nominees, save for one thing…"?

Can the same be said for all those non-existent Catholic nominees of the past?  Absent a whole lot of research we are assuming a bunch of facts not in evidence here.

But the bottom line is this - there is simply insufficient evidence of enough anti-Mormon sentiment on either side of the aisle to justify Ramesh's argument.  Early, generic Mormon polls are now old news.  In places where Romney is actively campaigning, the man himself is putting the lie to those polls. People may not be willing to vote for "a" Mormon, but in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan, and increasingly South Carolina, they seem willing to vote for "this" Mormon.

Now in light of such data, hanging one's hat in an anti-Romney argument on his religion strikes me as barking up the wrong tree.  Funny thing about arguments over "electability" - it's a highly intangible quality until the votes are actually cast.


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April 3rd 2007

Romney, Fund-Raising and Religion: Comments and Predictions

Lounging around my hotel room early this morning and watching the national news shows (something I rarely am able to do) I found several aspects of the reporting on the "money primary" fascinating from an Article VI Blog perspective.

Starting off the day, there was Matt Lauer on "Today," asking Romney if his money mostly came from Mormons.  Presumably to give himself cover for an otherwise outrageous question, Lauer referred to a New York Times story this morning that baldly asserted Romney success resulted from "tapping two distant but rich networks — Wall Street and the Mormon Church — to easily outpace his better-known Republican primary rivals."  The L.A. Daily News ran the same story with the astonishing headline, "Romney rakes in cash from Mormons."

Full disclosure:  I am a Romney supporter and have donated to his campaign.  That qualifies me, therefore, to note that the forms donors must complete do not require a statement of faith.  So how do the Times and the Daily News headline writer know Romney's success depended on members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the "LDS Church")?  Well, the article says, "[r]esidents of Utah, the center of the Mormon Church, contributed about 15 percent of the total contributions, more per capita than any other state."

There are too many angles here to comment on.  I'll try a few:

1.  It is remarkable, to say the least, that the news media go directly to Romney's faith when trying to explain anything about him.  Mostly, I suppose, this is due to the relatively unknown nature of Mormonism (even though the LDS Church is the fourth-largest denomination in the USA now).  The Church is still such a curiosity to so many people– including those sophisticates among the MSM elite.  Hugh Hewitt has more on on this.

2.  It would have been (a little) better if the Times story had referred to "two distant but rich networks — Wall Street and [members of] the Mormon Church."  The Church gives no candidate money;  only Church members do.  Are there no editors at the Times?

3.  In explaining LDS Church members' support for Romney, both Lauer and Hugh liken Church members to ethnic groups.  Hugh notes that Mormons support their own man "just as a lot of Italian-Americans no doubt donated to Giuliani, African-Americans to Barack Obama, Jewish-Americans to Joe Lieberman, and Greek-Americans to Michael Dukakis."  I think Hugh's got the right idea, but to me as a Mormon it feels strange to compare membership in my church to membership in an ethnic group, especially because the modern LDS Church is so multi-ethnic.  (Just drop in on a Church Sunday meeting in Harlem, or East Los Angeles, or downtown Chicago sometime.)  Church membership, after all, is self-selecting; ethnicity is not.

4.  My prediction:  After April 15, when all the data are in, the numbers will be sliced and diced every which-way.  I will guarantee that there will be an effort to quantify Romney's Mormon support.  There may be an effort to do the same with Obama's African-American support.  Will reports on Romney's Mormon support have an undertone of conspiracy, of something not quite right, while Obama's African-American support is celebrated as a manifestation of American grass-roots politics?  I think I know the answer, but I hope I am wrong.

John adds: Two brief comments on the piece, which, by the way, was reprinted by the LA Daily News under that particularly egregious headline.  Firstly Lowell, I don't think you have to concern yourself about whether this coverage will have the inference and undertone of conspiracy - it's already there in this piece and related blog posts I have seen.  Asking a question about a group that would not normally be asked about other groups implies conspiracy.

Secondly. this entire story is fabricated out of whole cloth.  Their facts are minimal and add up to nothing.  Basically they are threefold.  One, the statistical giving out of Utah cited by Lowell above.  So be it, it's natural.  Bush got way more than his share of money out of Texas, McCain is no doubt bringing in huge bucks out of Arizona, and so it goes.  Second fact, the entirely trumped up improper contact with BYU story from last fall.  It was a mistake, a small one at that, and simply cannot be interpreted as rising to the level of a conspriacy.  The third fact is the distribution of giving to Romney's PAC.

Now, PAC giving is NOT campaign giving.  They are different things.  A PAC is designed to serve certain specific causes, not candidates.  When you couple this with the fact that campaign contributions are capped by law, you begin to see there is no there, there.  All those rich and powerful Mormon names they cite can give no more to the campaign than Lowell can, or myself for that matter, though I have made no such contribution.  This means in order for there to be an actual Mormon network at play, there would have to be some means of coordinating efforts.  Where is the evidence of that?

It certainly is not happening within the confines of the LDS church, that would be a violation of church doctrine as Lowell has so ably pointed out time and again.  Not to mention it would violate a bunch of campaign finance laws; a fact which I am fairly certain would have the Attorney General breathing down Romney's neck even as I write if there was anything to it.

This piece is journalism at its very worst.  It is the implication of problem where none exists, which makes it not reporting, but activism.  I thought journalists were supposed to be unbiased, that biased writing was up to us bloggers and to radio talk show hosts.  To be frank, I was unsurprised when blog posts along these lines started to show up, but for it to show in the MSM, this fast, is really troubling.  For it to happen this rapidly says the NYTimes had reporters poised to write the piece, with the background research done, needing only the figures to publish.  In other words, they had their angle before they had their data - the very definition of agenda journalism.

And all at the expense of a religion I do not hold, but that nonetheless deserves a place at the American table.  To work to deny it that place, through baseless implication, is nothing less than un-American.

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March 28th 2007

Because We Have To Know…

Reflecting on this morning's Reading List, it has become apparent that the Fred Thompson thing is more than a flash in the pan and wishful dreaming on the part of the dissatisfied few.  But before we can go any further with it there are some questions about Mr. Thompson that simply must be answered.  I hereby challenge every member of the press and blogosphere out there to work tirelessly until these questions are answered thoroughly, completely, and repeatedly:

  • Transubstantiation - Yes or No?
  • Priest or pastor?
  • Elder rule or hierarchical?
  • Sprinkle or dunk?
  • Catechism?
  • Confession?
  • Calvinist or Arminian?
  • Platonist or Aristotelean?
  • Ordination of women?
  • Pre-, Post-, or Mid-Trib?
  • Modern or traditional worship music?
  • Vestments, business attire, or Hawaiian shirt?
  • Take the elements to the congregation or have the congregation come to the server?

What's that you say?  You don't care?  You might want to give that fact some serious consideration in making decisions about whom to back in '08.  I mean the man could be a total fruitcake!

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