Oh, Just Get Over It
Remember yesterday when we noted that some outlets were making noise about an email circulating amongst Mormons calling for a day of prayer and fasting up to the election? Well, CNN is making a BIG deal out of it.
I got news for all you incredulous people out there. Eric Metaxsis, author of the massively well selling bio of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, keynoter at this year’s national prayer breakfast, made pretty much the same call to ALL Christians yesterday at the Anaheim, CA Prayer Breakfast and repeated it on Hugh Hewitt’s show yesterday afternoon. In fact, Metaxsis, one upped our Mormon friends who called for a day – Metaxsis called for 40 days (the flood, Jesus in the wilderness…) of prayer and fasting leading up to the convention – and conveniently yesterday was 40 days from the election.
I don’t know why this Mormon email is news other than reporters are out their and they just like to say “Mormon” like a child learning a new word. People of faith have been calling for prayer and fasting at critical times in their national history since there were nations. Does the press want to deny this is a critical time? What election isn’t critical? Why would this email make news when Metaxsis, a nationally known figure, saying the exact same thing not? Likely because Metaxsis is not Mormon, don’t you think. This is just silly.
I am forced to wonder if the reporters here knew that Mormons prayed. There is not a hair’s breadth of difference between Mormons and conventional Christianity on this point. This is a big one and prayer is a good idea in a situation like this. If that astonishes reporters, so be it, but it does not astonish the rest of us.
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Retrocon on 28 Sep 2012 at 1:47 pm #
It’s even possible the e-mail chain could have been started by someone trying to damage Romney’s candidacy. I wouldn’t take much at face value if there is an obvious hook in it for the media to play against. On the other hand, I have LDS relatives and Evangelical friends who frequently pass on to me corny or over-the-top e-mails such as the one described. I just delete them. Yet there is nothing wrong with prayer nor with inviting friends to join you in prayer.
Of course, there is no endorsement by the LDS Church — the Church is politically neutral and never tells anyone to vote for a particular candidate, so these are just people operating on their own.
mahonri on 28 Sep 2012 at 7:25 pm #
While I agree in the principled premise of petitioning for God’s blessings (through fasting and prayer – as it is a biblical practice), the idea of it being used in a political campaign setting is a bit disturbing on several levels.
All this religious talk kinda reminds me of the great divide during the civil war – where the northern christians were praying for the blessings of heaven to be upon their cause, and the southern christians doing the same.
Maybe we should be advocating a duel in the dessert scenario. Our God against your God… and we’ll see who’s God is the real God.
It really is unbecoming in a highly charged campaign season. Let’s save it for the inauguration of the POTUS.
Rockgod28 on 29 Sep 2012 at 11:34 am #
Oh, just get ovet it is … the media outlets of the NYT, WP, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN tell us.
Mitt Romney has lost the election already. Obama is leading in the polls so there is no point voting, listening to the debates or engaging in politics.
America just needs to get over itself. Unemployment is 8%. It could be worse if it wasn’t for President Obama. Manufacturing, services and even cafeteria food is all down which no one could have fixed, especially Mitt Romney. Americans are leaving the labor force, dependent on food stamps and have proven all along that the United States has stolen the best minds, talents, resources and wealth of the world. Now that President Obama is in office everything will be equalized during his second term.
The West, western civilization, is over. We just need to get over it. The Middle East is covered in blood and it is the United States fault in the first place. Israel is threatened with extintion and we should just forget about it. There is no point to that nation. Control of the region should be given over to the Palestinians. Then there will be peace.
The United States should just back off, retreat to her own boarders and not protect its interests. We were just stealing our ‘colonies’ resources from the people it rightfully belongs to. America is an imperialist nation that is good at hiding its imperialism.
Ok fine. The leftists win. You win. We give up. What do we get by surrendering to you?
Peace? No there is no peace. No one can deliver that. The petty squables of those in political power will continue. Spiritual peace? No there is no peace. No one can deliver that. Islam is divided even in Shiria law, women are oppressed, and only submission to political authority, to mob rule can a person be safe, but no peace. Also there is no god by the way, science says so, which means when you die, cease to be you can have peace which has no meaning since you no longer exist.
No emotional peace. No physical peace. All you have is your life, your wits and the chance to submit to political authority to continue to live in this world.
Innovation, invention, business, transactions, and your food will be heavily regulated to be proceesed by the government for approval.
Investment, donations and speech will be strictly regulated for the good of the community, not your individual well-being since your life is protected by the government so everything you have, built and own is really under the ownership of the government.
So just give it up already. Pay your taxes and we will come up with new taxes, even global taxes. It is inevitable as a second term for President Obama.
I have only one answer to the leftists, mainstream media and President Obama:
No.
I will not believe your lies. I will not just protest and go quietly into the night in submission. That does not mean I have to die or hurt others for me to succeed. I don’t have to steal to gain what I want.
I am an American. I believe in the right to worship and allow others that right as long as it does not infringe upon my rights. I will worship God, for he is real. There are standards, trials, tragedies, tests and temptations I must overcome with humility by prayer, fasting, study, and service.
I will fall short, but I will endure.
I will endure because this life is not the end. I am an immortal being here to learn to be better than I was yesterday. To be kinder, more loving, patient, long-suffering, diligent, and fulfill my duties as a man.
To be a man in a world that distains the word. To admit mistakes and pick myself up to continue to strive toward a future I can only hope is real. A vision given by the founding fathers of this nation to secure the blessings of Liberty.
Those blessings are not found in government.
They are found in principles so that we might govern ourselves by them.
Here is the first. Love thy neighbor as thyself.
There is more than that, but it is a start. It is only the beginning of the journey.
Even in the depressing dystopia of the Leftist and enemies of America I will believe still.
GO ROMNEY/RYAN! 2012!
John Schroeder on 29 Sep 2012 at 10:37 pm #
mahonri:
Nothing wrong with making your desires known to God. He may say “no,” but He still wants to hear our supplications. The scriptures, mine or the Mormons, is plain on that. Problems arise only when you claim God’s divine sanction.
Yes, I believe one side to be more godly than the other, but I would never presume to know God’s specific will for a given situation – just my own and I know God wants to hear what I want.
JLF9999 on 30 Sep 2012 at 8:47 am #
It is Sunday morning and around the world radical Islam is attacking and killing friend and foe alike. There are two more dead American’s in Afghanistan killed by “friendly” Afghans. Car bombers murdered 32 fellow Muslims in Iraq. Two Kenyan Christian children were murdered in an attack on their church by Islamic radicals. Our embassies are under siege, our ambassadors are threatened and one was killed. American tourists are warned to stay out of Egypt. Muslims around the world are burning our flag and rioting in protests. It goes on and on. Apparently the Obama reset with the Muslim world is not as set as the press and the White House have been telling us. And where is our president and what is he doing?
The United Nations had its yearly congress of world leaders where our best ally in the middle east laid out in a speech what could be the start date for World War III. Yet the American UN ambassador was conspicuously absent. What signal did that send to the radical Islamists in Iran and elsewhere? The world crumbles into more war and death, the economy is again on the brink of collapse and where is Barack Obama?
macfan1950 on 30 Sep 2012 at 5:00 pm #
About the fast–you may remember that back in February, our good friends at “Evangelicals for Mitt” proposed that like-minded people join them in a weekly fast for America–specifically for Romney’s victory in November. If that doesn’t ring a bell, here’s a link that details what they had proposed and how it was going three weeks along:
http://evangelicalsformitt.org/2012/03/fast-on-march-5/
Wonder why CNN didn’t make a big deal of that……?
sewinglady on 30 Sep 2012 at 8:26 pm #
I agree. These news outlets just want the opportunity to say, “Mormon” over and over again. They have been actively ignoring the bad economic news and the terrible international news in favor of anything that distracts. Particularly, anything that can make Mitt Romney look bad. I have never seen the media be so unbelievably biased. I saw portions of a speech that Pat Cadell (former Jimmy Carter pollster) gave at the Accuracy in Media conference. He chastised the press for the terrible bias and corruption they have displayed, especially since the Libya terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. The link is http://www.aim.org/video/pat-caddell-the-audacity-of-corruption/. If I were more internet savvy, I could activate the link. Unfortunately, I’m not. Many of you may find his speech interesting.
Since Mahonri has been commenting, his immediate reaction is always for Mormons and religious people to retreat and leave the public square. Our beliefs are inseparable from who we are, and we are not going to go away, or become independents, or whatever it is he keeps suggesting. GET. OVER. IT.
For the record, I have been praying, and frequently joining the Evangelicals for Mitt in their Monday fasts. I am beginning to feel peace over what is happening. One of the things I have been praying for is that masks will be stripped away. I believe that Mitt and Ryan are good men and can endure the heat. I have some real questions about how the other side will manage if their masks are ripped away. It’s okay for voters to know the truth and to vote on it. I am glad we have given voters such a clear choice in this Presidential cycle. If the truth is known, and Obama still wins, then it will ultimately bring us to the point that God wants us to be.
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