Comments on: California’s Proposition 8: Open Season on Mormons?

By: J 205 Timeline Project « Melodie's Blog

J 205 Timeline Project « Melodie's Blog — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:11:55 +0000

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By: alangeorge7778

alangeorge7778 — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:29:23 +0000

Put a bigger target on my shirt; I donated; from out of state and the nut cases haven’t picked up on it yet or how much it was; but bring them on. Whenever I'm on a California Vacation I'm treated with respect so it's a concern that this is happening. Those who protest the loudest usually have the most to hide [from] and are usually the most insecure of the bunch. Sometimes a good fight clears the air.

By: VFRMarine

VFRMarine — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:47:33 +0000

I actually find this quite sad. I understand that some people want the definition of marriage to be between a man and woman, but is it necessary to put it in the state constitution?

I have served this country and fought on both fronts. I am not gay and have no desire to be intimate with a man in any way. I think that we could put our efforts toward a much better cause. If anything, I hope this proposition fails and somebody introduces something else.

I feel that we should abolish marriage in the eyes of the state. I feel that the state should do a civil union and if a church wishes to perform a marriage ceremony, so be it. I think the legal authority should be taken away from a church to perform the marriage and make everybody file paperwork with the state to make the civil union legitimate.

This would go more towards what our founding fathers wanted…separation of church and state. Why is it we can spend millions of dollars on the yes and no cause and we have so many people in the middle of a financial crisis. Why aren’t we helping each other out.

I’ll continue to defend my country and carry out the orders of my superiors, but I find it sad that this is one of your biggest worries. I hope that one day both sides can see the error of their ways and find some middle ground. For now, I will be voting NO on Prop 8 because it isn’t written properly and openly discriminates against people.

By: rcrocket

rcrocket — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:07:19 +0000

This attack on the supporters is just plain wrong. I don’t think it is business as usual as one of the posters above noted. In this case, the only reason a selective group of posters is being targeted is that they are Mormon.

Would it be appropriate to stand in front of a synagogue and hurl epithets on the Sabbath because it is known that most Jews support Zionism? Would it be appropriate to make anonymous threats and send anonymous emails to Jews, ridiculing their faith?

In my little valley in Santa Clarita, Mormons have been targeted for anonymous inserts placed in mail boxes. The flyers condemn the Mormon faith, its past position on racial issues, and condemns the recipient for being a Mormon. Dozens of us are getting it.

Bob Crockett

By: JLFuller

JLFuller — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:39:19 +0000

I have read some of the Evangelical comments about Mitt and his part as governor in implimenting his state’s homosexual marriage ruling. I disagree with the notion that a governor has authority to disregard case law and that it is OK to involve his subordinates in a protest. I think every state constitution has proceedures the governor can follow to challenge rulings but none I am aware of allow him to ignore them. To do so would do more harm than good. That isn’t to say the governor had to gleefully agree to the court’s reqirements but I don’t think Mitt did that either. We are a nation of laws just as I believe God is a God of order. We either follow the rules or we make things worse. We can’t pick and choose which to obey and which to ignore.

During my working life, if I had a problem with a judge’s decision I went into chambers and spoke directly to the judge. If I could get a broad interpretation or some latitude in how I implimeted the ruling then I figured that was as good as I could hope for. But I always did as I was instructed because it was my duty. I don’t think it matters whether one is a governor or a case manager like me, you do what you have to do. In our country we expect our government servants to give unto Caeser. Otherwise they should find another job. That goes for governors too – maybe even more so.

By: JLFuller

JLFuller — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:33:45 +0000

It goes with the territiry. We all knew what we were getting into before we came here. We knew Satan would do what you see happening now but we came anyway because of our committment to Father and Christ. We knew that many of our number would fall away because of their choice to follow the ways of the world. Satan has used these same tactics since the founding of this earth and likely before so few should be surprised. He would make evil seem good and good seem to be evil. He would turn families against each other and split some from the rest. Even the most stalwart and committed would be corrupted and fall away and so some have. The most troubled of us should remember that we cannot serve two masters, God and Mammon.

This is a war. It continues from our pre-mortal life. It is and always has been Satan against God and we are in the middle. We knew we would be. Again we again have to choose. There has always been a battle ground. There has always been some human weakness that Satan uses where he can squeese in to seperate us from Father. This time homosexuality is the battleground. It will be something else next time. It has always been good versus evil and right versus wrong. It has always been about taking us from God.

By: Josh M

Josh M — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:12:35 +0000

It’s been eight years since Proposition 22 (the California Defense of Marriage Act) passed with 61%. How many new voters have been indoctrinated by California’s liberal public education system since then? And how did Attorney General Jerry Brown change the name of Proposition 8 from, “California Marriage Protection Act” to, “Elliminates Right of Same Sex Couples to Marry?” Of course, the Superior Court of California ruled in favor of the change. If Proposition 8 passes, it will be a miracle–but then so was the passage of Proposition 22. Either way, as long as children are being indoctrinated by California’s liberal public education system, we are only hacking at the branches. The solution to the problem? Education vouchers.

By: Mike Nicholes

Mike Nicholes — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:00:15 +0000

Put a bigger target on my shirt; I donated; from out of state and the nut cases haven’t picked up on it yet or how much it was; but bring them on. Those who protest the loudest usually have the most to hide [from] and are usually the most insecure of the bunch. Sometimes a good fight clears the air.

By: Nate G.

Nate G. — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:50:58 +0000

A few comments: 1) Regarding John's comments about driving a wedge between LDS and Evangelicals, I received a comment on a post on my blog regarding prop 8 that was exactly to that effect. Here is the link to the post. and part of the quote..

Welcome to the ProtectMarriage.com coalition. I wish that more rank and file members of the LDS (Mormon) church would realize: the anti-gay coalition they’ve joined in California is one that includes folks who - given the chance - would vote their church out of existence. Folks like Mike Huckabee and his Evangelical buddies.

2) Here is another interesting article that calls into question LDS history in regards to marriage and the author throws in the issue of Blacks and the priesthood just for good measure. 3) For a long time I've read and enjoyed your posts. So long in fact that I can believe this is my first time commenting. Perhaps because I've been too lazy and hurried to register. I'm so glad to see you didn't discontinue when the Romney campaign officially ended. Thanks and keep it up! 4) I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind adding links to my sites, TheMittBlog.com (in temporary hibernation due to real-world work load) and/or PlanetRomney.org, in your "Romney Campaign" section.

By: Emerson

Emerson — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:37:46 +0000

According the his profile page, hekebolos, the Daily Kos writer, is Dante Apollo Atkins of Los Angeles. He graduated from UCLA with a degree in Latin and Greek and later founded his own research company, the Pollux Group Inc. Additional Information: - CA DSCC elected delegate, AD-42 - Member, CDP Platform Committee - Vice-President, Los Angeles County Young Democrats Email: hekebolos@gmail.com Personal Website: http://www.hekebolos.com Company Website: http://www.polluxresearch.com