Comments on: The Post-Obama-Church-Resignation Discussion and more… http://www.article6blog.com/2008/06/03/the-post-obama-church-resignation-discussion-and-more/ "Religion, Politics, the Presidency: Commentary by a Mormon, an Evangelical, and an Orthodox Christian" Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:15:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Magson http://www.article6blog.com/2008/06/03/the-post-obama-church-resignation-discussion-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-12635 Magson Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:02:08 +0000 http://www.article6blog.com/2008/06/03/the-post-obama-church-resignation-discussion-and-more/#comment-12635 On the JMR piece -- very amusing to this LDS reader. And I grew up in Chicago area so I know all about Willow Creek too ;-) On the JMR piece — very amusing to this LDS reader.

And I grew up in Chicago area so I know all about Willow Creek too ;-)

]]> By: TVHall http://www.article6blog.com/2008/06/03/the-post-obama-church-resignation-discussion-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-12634 TVHall Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:18:43 +0000 http://www.article6blog.com/2008/06/03/the-post-obama-church-resignation-discussion-and-more/#comment-12634 Between Jonah Goldberg’s acronym for Black Liberation Theology and Cal Thomas’ Shakey’s reference, I feel an urge coming on. And you don’t need to worry about Mormons not getting some of the references in John Mark Reynolds’ piece. The themes are universal enough for all to get a good belly laugh, especially those dealing with seating arrangements and potluck casseroles. Oh man, there it is again. It’s time for lunch! Between Jonah Goldberg’s acronym for Black Liberation Theology and Cal Thomas’ Shakey’s reference, I feel an urge coming on. And you don’t need to worry about Mormons not getting some of the references in John Mark Reynolds’ piece. The themes are universal enough for all to get a good belly laugh, especially those dealing with seating arrangements and potluck casseroles. Oh man, there it is again. It’s time for lunch!

]]> By: CarlH http://www.article6blog.com/2008/06/03/the-post-obama-church-resignation-discussion-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-12633 CarlH Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:22:15 +0000 http://www.article6blog.com/2008/06/03/the-post-obama-church-resignation-discussion-and-more/#comment-12633 While I almost fully agree with John's identification of legitimate and illegitimate discussions about Obama's resignation from his Chicago congregation, I have to raise one quibble. The problem with the "Social Gospel" appeal is that, in most instances, the "Social Gospel" entails calls for political action and not merely personal action, based on the particular religious understanding of the advocate and co-believers. Now, I have no problem whatsoever with political positions grounded in religious belief (indeed, for me, one of the "big lies" of the secularist movement is the attempt to de-legitimize faith-based positions in the public arena), but when a <I>politician</I> explicitly invokes "the Social Gospel" (of whatever stripe it may be), the "Social Gospel" itself (not only its ultimate aims and objectives, but also its strategies and operations) becomes essentially political and fair game for comment and question. And John, I don't think Mormon readers will have any problem enjoying the humor of John Mark Reynolds piece. I suspect the territorial nature of worshipers' pew selection knows no denominational boundaries, and it only takes a bit a of tweak to apply most of the others to attitudes among LDS congregations (even if the LDS members would have to change their residence, or stop attending altogether, rather than simply shop for a congregation with a better personal fit). While I almost fully agree with John’s identification of legitimate and illegitimate discussions about Obama’s resignation from his Chicago congregation, I have to raise one quibble. The problem with the “Social Gospel” appeal is that, in most instances, the “Social Gospel” entails calls for political action and not merely personal action, based on the particular religious understanding of the advocate and co-believers. Now, I have no problem whatsoever with political positions grounded in religious belief (indeed, for me, one of the “big lies” of the secularist movement is the attempt to de-legitimize faith-based positions in the public arena), but when a politician explicitly invokes “the Social Gospel” (of whatever stripe it may be), the “Social Gospel” itself (not only its ultimate aims and objectives, but also its strategies and operations) becomes essentially political and fair game for comment and question.

And John, I don’t think Mormon readers will have any problem enjoying the humor of John Mark Reynolds piece. I suspect the territorial nature of worshipers’ pew selection knows no denominational boundaries, and it only takes a bit a of tweak to apply most of the others to attitudes among LDS congregations (even if the LDS members would have to change their residence, or stop attending altogether, rather than simply shop for a congregation with a better personal fit).

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