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	<title>Comments on: What IS Mike Huckabee&#8217;s Game?</title>
	<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/</link>
	<description>Religion in the 2008 Presidential Campaign: Commentary by an Evangelical Christian and a Mormon</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CarlH</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12399</link>
		<dc:creator>CarlH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Mark Reynolds post, contrasting Romney's withdrawal with Huckabee's lingering on, reminded me of the &lt;em&gt;LA Times&lt;/em&gt;' "Top of the Ticket" blog item over the weekend, &lt;a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/mitt-1.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;"A surprising aftermath to Mitt Romney's campaign"&lt;/a&gt;

In some quarters, the surprise is that the &lt;em&gt;LA Times&lt;/em&gt; would have noticed, let alone noted it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Mark Reynolds post, contrasting Romney&#8217;s withdrawal with Huckabee&#8217;s lingering on, reminded me of the <em>LA Times</em>&#8216; &#8220;Top of the Ticket&#8221; blog item over the weekend, <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/mitt-1.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;A surprising aftermath to Mitt Romney&#8217;s campaign&#8221;</a></p>
<p>In some quarters, the surprise is that the <em>LA Times</em> would have noticed, let alone noted it!</p>
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		<title>By: JLFuller</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12398</link>
		<dc:creator>JLFuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12398</guid>
		<description>The caricature the POST reporter painted a few years back about Evangelicals being &lt;em&gt;“poor, uneducated and easily led,”&lt;/em&gt; comes from a very real part of the Christian experience. Although the reporter targeted Evangelicals, it seems to be wider than that. Well-read people know the profile does not fit all Evangelicals. As I read his intentions, he has a specific type of voter in mind. The people the reporter has in mind are the people who have been taught &lt;em&gt;what&lt;/em&gt; to think not &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; to think. They can quote chapter and verse of what they have been taught but know little about other opinions or interpretations - and are discouraged from asking. It is a one way street for these folks. You can see it in those people who follow the slingers of &lt;em&gt;"you are going to hell because..."&lt;/em&gt; epithets which, of course, always seem to followed by a plea for money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The caricature the POST reporter painted a few years back about Evangelicals being <em>“poor, uneducated and easily led,”</em> comes from a very real part of the Christian experience. Although the reporter targeted Evangelicals, it seems to be wider than that. Well-read people know the profile does not fit all Evangelicals. As I read his intentions, he has a specific type of voter in mind. The people the reporter has in mind are the people who have been taught <em>what</em> to think not <em>how</em> to think. They can quote chapter and verse of what they have been taught but know little about other opinions or interpretations - and are discouraged from asking. It is a one way street for these folks. You can see it in those people who follow the slingers of <em>&#8220;you are going to hell because&#8230;&#8221;</em> epithets which, of course, always seem to followed by a plea for money.</p>
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		<title>By: JLFuller</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12396</link>
		<dc:creator>JLFuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12396</guid>
		<description>WDPorter asks &lt;em&gt;"What does he have to lose by staying in? And how do Evangelicals lose?"&lt;/em&gt;. Well WD, it isn't just Evangelicals who lose. It is everyone associated with him who loses. Supporters are painted with the same brush too. If a candidate has to resort to clownishness or stunts to get noticed he essentially has acknowledged that his message has failed. Those who cling to him look desperate and needy - kind of like the jilted lover who just won't accept that that part of their life is over. That doesn't build confidence. In fact it looks pathetic. It's embarrassing quite frankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WDPorter asks <em>&#8220;What does he have to lose by staying in? And how do Evangelicals lose?&#8221;</em>. Well WD, it isn&#8217;t just Evangelicals who lose. It is everyone associated with him who loses. Supporters are painted with the same brush too. If a candidate has to resort to clownishness or stunts to get noticed he essentially has acknowledged that his message has failed. Those who cling to him look desperate and needy - kind of like the jilted lover who just won&#8217;t accept that that part of their life is over. That doesn&#8217;t build confidence. In fact it looks pathetic. It&#8217;s embarrassing quite frankly.</p>
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		<title>By: 4thnephite</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12395</link>
		<dc:creator>4thnephite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12395</guid>
		<description>Let's understand most politicians  require as much air time as possible for their ego, and I do mean alter-ego.  Now I hear Hillary wishes to go on SNL to boost her soft and acting style.   After awhile in front of the camera nothing else matters to them besides, "it"s show time".

      This year has become a very interesting time watching the news, hearing about how all of the polsters are getting "it" wrong.    The picture of the Riddler is apropos for this year, but who and how many.
 
           Now we have another Riddler, or would that be the Joker involved, Ralph Nader.   What do they say, "to many cooks spoil the broth" too late.
"Holy Cow" Batman         I can see a TV series coming on.

I love Les Brown, a motivation speaker, once mentioned the definition of EGO as
  Edging God Out.     

Bob Hope and Bing Crosby and all of their wonderful Road to...........
   But who is qualified to play  Crosby, Hope.    I do think we have a Lamore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s understand most politicians  require as much air time as possible for their ego, and I do mean alter-ego.  Now I hear Hillary wishes to go on SNL to boost her soft and acting style.   After awhile in front of the camera nothing else matters to them besides, &#8220;it&#8221;s show time&#8221;.</p>
<p>      This year has become a very interesting time watching the news, hearing about how all of the polsters are getting &#8220;it&#8221; wrong.    The picture of the Riddler is apropos for this year, but who and how many.</p>
<p>           Now we have another Riddler, or would that be the Joker involved, Ralph Nader.   What do they say, &#8220;to many cooks spoil the broth&#8221; too late.<br />
&#8220;Holy Cow&#8221; Batman         I can see a TV series coming on.</p>
<p>I love Les Brown, a motivation speaker, once mentioned the definition of EGO as<br />
  Edging God Out.     </p>
<p>Bob Hope and Bing Crosby and all of their wonderful Road to&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
   But who is qualified to play  Crosby, Hope.    I do think we have a Lamore.</p>
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		<title>By: paawa</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12394</link>
		<dc:creator>paawa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12394</guid>
		<description>Cool picture of Frank Gorshwin as the "Riddler"!
 
  John, I totally agree with your assessment of Huckabee. I actually hope he stays in longer, because there is more chance of him making more foolish comments or antics that will hopefully ruin his chances of ever running for president again. There's no way, even if he had gotten the nomination through some "miracle" as he puts it, that he could ever beat Obama or even Hillary in the general election. He has practically zero appeal outside his narrow evangelical base, and has so much baggage that would make him look ridiculous running against any democrat at a national level. So many times he has done things which I thought would have ruined his candidacy (beginning with that press conference fiasco where he was supposed to announce his negative Romney ad). It does continue to baffle me that he manages to get as many votes as he does. I'm convinced though that it's largely because of his continued use of religion as a way to mobilize evangelical voters, and that his voting base will continue to be reflected that way. He has also shown time and time again, that he has little or no "gravitas", beginning around the time of his ad where he said that his answer to illegal immigration problems was putting Chuck Norris on the border, and most recently with his antics during the recent Saturday Night Live appearance. Having a sense of humor is one thing, but his past use of humor gives one a sense that he would not take serious issues seriously. He expects fellow evangelicals to vote for him just because he says he is "one of them", and is offended when they don't. He tries to claim that his candidacy has divine backing, which is extremely presumptuous, conceited, and just plain wrong. Even if he believes that, and if it were true, it's not something one should brag about or even talk about publicly (sort of like bragging about being a humble person). It's alot like wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, as a kind of badge of honor, and leaves the overarching impression that one is using their religion to get personal gain and glory of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool picture of Frank Gorshwin as the &#8220;Riddler&#8221;!</p>
<p>  John, I totally agree with your assessment of Huckabee. I actually hope he stays in longer, because there is more chance of him making more foolish comments or antics that will hopefully ruin his chances of ever running for president again. There&#8217;s no way, even if he had gotten the nomination through some &#8220;miracle&#8221; as he puts it, that he could ever beat Obama or even Hillary in the general election. He has practically zero appeal outside his narrow evangelical base, and has so much baggage that would make him look ridiculous running against any democrat at a national level. So many times he has done things which I thought would have ruined his candidacy (beginning with that press conference fiasco where he was supposed to announce his negative Romney ad). It does continue to baffle me that he manages to get as many votes as he does. I&#8217;m convinced though that it&#8217;s largely because of his continued use of religion as a way to mobilize evangelical voters, and that his voting base will continue to be reflected that way. He has also shown time and time again, that he has little or no &#8220;gravitas&#8221;, beginning around the time of his ad where he said that his answer to illegal immigration problems was putting Chuck Norris on the border, and most recently with his antics during the recent Saturday Night Live appearance. Having a sense of humor is one thing, but his past use of humor gives one a sense that he would not take serious issues seriously. He expects fellow evangelicals to vote for him just because he says he is &#8220;one of them&#8221;, and is offended when they don&#8217;t. He tries to claim that his candidacy has divine backing, which is extremely presumptuous, conceited, and just plain wrong. Even if he believes that, and if it were true, it&#8217;s not something one should brag about or even talk about publicly (sort of like bragging about being a humble person). It&#8217;s alot like wearing one&#8217;s religion on one&#8217;s sleeve, as a kind of badge of honor, and leaves the overarching impression that one is using their religion to get personal gain and glory of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: wdporter</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12393</link>
		<dc:creator>wdporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/25/what-is-mike-huckabees-game/#comment-12393</guid>
		<description>Yeah, good effort, but I'm just not buying it.

You have simultaneously acknowledged that Huckabee might indeed be actually trying to move the party in a direction he feels appropriate and have failed to cite any real evidence that he is not genuine other than that you apparently feel he's comical or ridiculous.  

It's important not to ignore one small fact:  he's STILL getting quite a few votes.  Obama beat Clinton in Virginia by a larger margin than McCain beat Huckabee.  That doesn't tell you anything?  Either Evangelical Christians are just ignorant useless lemmings, or they believe that his staying in the race has value.

Did you know the latest ARG poll has him within 4 points of McCain in Texas?  Maybe that's a fluke, but even if it's 12 points that's still saying something, given that you, me, the media, God, Santa Claus, CNN and the President has been telling us how inevitable (and Conservative) McCain is.

Yes, he's a little populist (OK very populist) and he's a ham for the camera...but that's typically how people make themselves known.  My Mother as of two weeks ago still didn't know who he was.  Why?  Because she's not a political junkie like you and I.  

Huckabee understands that he's not going after political junkies, because, if he's as smart as I think he is, he realizes that the political junkies have already made up their minds.  You and I can gripe and complain at each other about whether or not he "deserves" to be in, or is playing "by the rules"...while his only goal is to make sure people that have never heard of him see his face and maybe take a glance at his website, and decide he's more conservative than McCain.

What does he have to lose by staying in?  And how do Evangelicals lose?

It would be a good idea for Evangelical Conservatives to stop pretending that they have real political clout in the Republican Party.  Hopefully you don't think that...We're talking about a party that has NEVER had a real Evangelical Christian as a serious player for the Presidency (the only real Evangelical Christian President being a Democrat).  We're talking about a party that allowed three or four of the most early and delegate-heavy States to go "winner-take-all" where no Evangelical would have a chance.

Anyway, this is exhausting...love your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, good effort, but I&#8217;m just not buying it.</p>
<p>You have simultaneously acknowledged that Huckabee might indeed be actually trying to move the party in a direction he feels appropriate and have failed to cite any real evidence that he is not genuine other than that you apparently feel he&#8217;s comical or ridiculous.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s important not to ignore one small fact:  he&#8217;s STILL getting quite a few votes.  Obama beat Clinton in Virginia by a larger margin than McCain beat Huckabee.  That doesn&#8217;t tell you anything?  Either Evangelical Christians are just ignorant useless lemmings, or they believe that his staying in the race has value.</p>
<p>Did you know the latest ARG poll has him within 4 points of McCain in Texas?  Maybe that&#8217;s a fluke, but even if it&#8217;s 12 points that&#8217;s still saying something, given that you, me, the media, God, Santa Claus, CNN and the President has been telling us how inevitable (and Conservative) McCain is.</p>
<p>Yes, he&#8217;s a little populist (OK very populist) and he&#8217;s a ham for the camera&#8230;but that&#8217;s typically how people make themselves known.  My Mother as of two weeks ago still didn&#8217;t know who he was.  Why?  Because she&#8217;s not a political junkie like you and I.  </p>
<p>Huckabee understands that he&#8217;s not going after political junkies, because, if he&#8217;s as smart as I think he is, he realizes that the political junkies have already made up their minds.  You and I can gripe and complain at each other about whether or not he &#8220;deserves&#8221; to be in, or is playing &#8220;by the rules&#8221;&#8230;while his only goal is to make sure people that have never heard of him see his face and maybe take a glance at his website, and decide he&#8217;s more conservative than McCain.</p>
<p>What does he have to lose by staying in?  And how do Evangelicals lose?</p>
<p>It would be a good idea for Evangelical Conservatives to stop pretending that they have real political clout in the Republican Party.  Hopefully you don&#8217;t think that&#8230;We&#8217;re talking about a party that has NEVER had a real Evangelical Christian as a serious player for the Presidency (the only real Evangelical Christian President being a Democrat).  We&#8217;re talking about a party that allowed three or four of the most early and delegate-heavy States to go &#8220;winner-take-all&#8221; where no Evangelical would have a chance.</p>
<p>Anyway, this is exhausting&#8230;love your blog.</p>
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