Things Worth The Effort…
Tributes…
K-Lo on women, Romney and the “too perfect” meme.
And I’ll go one step further. I worry about a political culture that is a little too suspicious of a scandal-less, all-American-gee-whiz-this-is-the-American-dream-in-overdrive package. We should be glad that good people — who, while well-off, are not without their share of painful crosses — are willing to subject themselves to the ugliness that politics can inflict. We should be grateful that good families will make the sacrifices necessary to serve — and make those sacrifices with no guarantees they’ll succeed. (Now that even Hillary Clinton has proven to be vulnerable, we know there are really no guarantees!)
Mitt Romney has money, smarts, support, and a loyal staff. He’ll be fine. But the rest of us will have, someday, to face up to the consequences of a culture of political cynicism.
Matt Lewis on “Hero’s Journey:
If you’ve read Arthur or the Odyssey — or have seen Star Wars or Rocky — you are familiar with the idea. Before reaching the “promised land,” a hero must first endure his “wilderness years.” This is essentially a right of passage or initiation (I’ve written that Mitt Romney finally passed his “Initiation” into the conservative movement.)
Did somebody say “wilderness years?” And it is Reagan’s example? Uh . . . . Anybody ever hear of Richard Nixon? Lord I am feeling old . . . .
Analysis . . .
Dan Gilgoff in USAToday interviews Nancy French about why Evangelicals did not flock to Romney. The conclusion is because Evangelical leaders refused to lead. Interesting, but not politically wise. Leadership is flimsy stuff, one can only lead people as far as they are willing to go. If one pushes one’s constituency too much in a direction it does not want to go, one finds oneself alone and no longer a leader.
James Dobson, who receives particular ire in the piece, and has made any number of mistakes in this thing, cannot be blamed for this one. Bringing up the Mormon issue openly was for him a no-win situation. In the past when Dobson did reach out to Mormons he was pilloried by some in his camp. Now he is getting pilloried by others for failing to do so. In such circumstance one must either keep one’s mouth shut, or be willing to lose a lot. If Dobson has a problem, it is that he said too much at the wrong time.
Nope, the anti-Mormon problems in the republican party are at a deeper level than Evangelical leadership - much deeper. There is a lot of hard work that needs to be done at a “grass roots” level to sort this one out.
Lowell inserts: I agree and disagree with those last two paragraphs. This is a fundamental grass-roots issue, no doubt about it. I am, however, less willing to give Dr. Dobson a pass on this one. He is a leader and needs to be out in front of those he leads. If we are saying that he could not encourage Evangelicals to look past Romney’s Mormonism for fear of upsetting his members, then we are also saying he’s a captive of his membership. To me, that makes him seem more like a talk show host concerned about his ratings than a leader of a movement.
John responds: Ahem - Dobson is a radio show host… That’s where his base comes from.
Lowell: Touché, sort of. Dobson’s show is not on any AM station in L.A. (if it is, it’s well-hidden), so I do not hear it, and I am not alone. He speaks to a certain narrow listenership, and when he is interviewed on Laura Ingraham’s show, for example, he is not interviewed as a talk show host, he’s interviewed as Mr. Focus on The Family, whose web site appeals to readers to “support the ministry.” If he’s a talk show host, then so is Jesse Jackson!
To be fair to Dobson, he’s like a politician. He can only get away with so much (see the candidates’ positions on immigration, for example). That he can’t get away with saying positive things about Romney says more about the state of his constituency than anything. But he is not a man of courage. He will not risk alienating his supporters, without whom he is nothing.
Mormons are thinking . . .
An interesting article out of, of all places, Fort Wayne, Indiana, interviews local, and not-so local Mormons for their thoughts and editorializes a bit.
This is the nub of it, really. Romney seemed so Mormon, so squeaky clean. Maybe we understand better those who’ve strayed or failed and recovered – or, for that matter, those who aren’t fabulously successful and can’t put tens of millions into their own campaigns. Maybe we relate to the family lives of other candidates, candidates who have been divorced, who have blended families.
I am not at all sure how to react to that. There was a bit of the “too perfect” stuff and that is associated with Mormonism, but let’s think rationally about this for a minute. The flip side of anti-Mormon bias is polygamy, which is, to the average American terribly unseemly. These comments also represent a lack of exposure to Mormons on a large scale, because, like with any group, I have known some really good ones, and some utter and complete jerks.
I guess, if people don’t like Mormons, they just don’t like them, rationality has left the room.
Sadly, Huck Still Needs To Be Hammered . . .
John Mark Reynolds lists five reason Huck should get out now! Reason #5:
You are harming Evangelicals by only getting their votes and forcing them into a ghetto.
HEY! That sounds familiar. Although “USnooze,” he said stealing from Rush Limbaugh, seems to think he is just rending Evangelicalism asunder. But then the MSM never could tell the difference between Evangelicalism, the Emerging Church, and mainstream denominationalism.
But, typically, Laura Ingraham, in conversation with Byron York, points out that Huckabee seems obsessed with Romney, insisting on taking shots long after Romney has left the race. Not to mention that the shot he takes is one designed to play into the “Mormons lie” meme. People very close to the campaign tell me that Huck is not motivated by anti-Mormon sentiment, but I am not seeing much in his public behavior that belies my suspicions.
This Catholic is suspicious of Huckabee and fears similar anti-Catholic stratagems to the anti-Mormons ones used in Iowa. Alas, that which I most feared is appearing. Serious damage, created by Huckabee’s strategy, has been done.
Getting It Wrong . . .
Yet another in the never ending series of atheistic rants when it comes to religion and politics. I wonder when atheists are going to figure out that what they have is NOT the absence of religion but religion of a different type? They are people of faith just like the rest of us, just not faith in God.
Stanley Fish tries to justify identity politics. What is interesting is he justifies it on the basis of the issues, reducing identity to a shortcut for “vote like me.” Except the shortcut cannot be relied upon and no identity group is sufficiently large to carry the day. In the end he has said nothing.
Background…
A very interesting Jewish perspective in a Muslim venue.
Andrew Ferguson on Lincoln and religion.
Polling Evangelicals.
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HaroldHutchison on 18 Feb 2008 at 10:16 am #
Huckabee’s silence about the Mormon-baiting in the primaries, and his inaction against the comments that appeared on his sites own blog say enough to this Mormon about where his heart really is.
The continued cheap shots also speak volumes.
I guess Huckabee’s decided to try to lie his way out of the hole he’s dug himself.
JLFuller on 18 Feb 2008 at 10:20 am #
John says - “James Dobson, who receives particular ire in the piece, and has made any number of mistakes in this thing, cannot be blamed for this one. Bringing up the Mormon issue openly was for him a no-win situation.” On the contrary my friend. Dobson and every religious leader who has claimed, implied or explicitly affirmed that Mormon’s are not Christian and are evil incarnate are responsible. They created the myth and are responsible for its evolution into meme. There are logical consequences to one’s behavior and this is it. Their evolution from slavery to Jim Crow to “separate but equal” have been denounced. But hate and exclusion is so embedded into these people’s psyche that they have to have an enemy and Mormons are their target. I am afraid that until education and understanding take root, we will continue to suffer from the bigotry we have seen.
TVHall on 18 Feb 2008 at 11:36 am #
Your comment that atheists are “people of faith just like the rest of us” is a humorous irony I have noticed for some time. However, I take it a step further and recognize that they have faith in God as well. It’s just that their God is human intellect, in general, and themselves, in particular.
John Schroeder on 18 Feb 2008 at 1:31 pm #
Mr. Fuller:
There are some assumptions in your comment that require a challenge. Dobson, I am sure, does not think Mormons are Christians, but I am equally sure he does not think they are “evil incarnate.” I think you step too far when you step into accusations of hatred with regards to James Dobson. He is wrong perhaps, but he does not HATE Mormons.
We must temper our rhetoric to stand within reason - baseless charges of hatred are as counterproductive as much of what has come from the creedal side of this discussion.
mike on 18 Feb 2008 at 2:24 pm #
John,
I am sure that you have read comments from JL Fuller as I have on several different web sites. I have always found his comments to be enlightening, thoughtful, and respectful. However, as Latter-day Saints, we can not stand by and tolerate any longer the bigory against us without speaking out against it. I personally was unprepared for the outing of the anti-Mormon sentiments from our Southern Evangelical brothers and sisters that we have witnessed during this presidential primary. I agree with you that kindness, understanding, and yes love are necessary at this time, but remaining silent is not.
JLFuller on 18 Feb 2008 at 4:17 pm #
John
I have heard the “we hate the religion but not the people” nonsense all my life. Webster says hate is “intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury ” . The National Prayer Day events, in which Dobson’s wife Shirley has a leadership role, forbid LDS members from speaking or even praying on behalf of the groups. His failure to stand up against this affront, when his voice was needed, makes him guilty. Sins of omission are just as damning as sins of commission. If he is going to take a leadership role in our society then he must reject bigotry and intolerance when it surfaces.
You rightly pointed out that Dobson was in a no-win situation. So are you. But you and others stood up for what you believe in. You take a traditional Christian position but yet you continue to do the right thing as you see it. Dobson didn’t. Dobson had an opportunity to take a stand for what he believed was right but said nothing. He took the easy way out and that makes him guilty. You don’t have to put the rope around the victims neck to be complicit in a lynching.
“We must temper our rhetoric to stand within reason..” you said. Maybe so - in communities where common courtesy and respect for others works well. But in a fight in the mud, I am not so sure.
Lowell Brown on 19 Feb 2008 at 12:40 am #
JL Fuller: I agree with John that “hatred” is too strong a word to describe Dobson’s attitude. I do think he lacks courage. I’d rather reserve “hate” as a description of those who really wish Mormons harm, and Dobson’s not one of those. He’s just a man with a constituency. This may sound harsh, but that’s what happens when one engages in priestcraft. No, Dobson’s not ordained, but it seems he might as well be. He’s like a minister who can’t afford to offend his congregation.
4thnephite on 19 Feb 2008 at 6:14 pm #
Sometimes the “Religious Right” hits me the wrong way. Such as if “they” have to say they are, they are not. I wonder why I get that feeling.