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	<title>Comments on: Proof &#8211; Huckabee/McCain In Cahoots &#8211; Where&#8217;s The &#8220;Lie&#8221; Meme Now?</title>
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	<description>&#34;Religion, Politics, the Presidency: Commentary by a Mormon, an Evangelical, and an Orthodox Christian&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: Article VI Blog &#187; Telling The Story &#8211; Part II &#8211; Why Did Mitt Romney Lose in &#8216;08?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Article VI Blog &#187; Telling The Story &#8211; Part II &#8211; Why Did Mitt Romney Lose in &#8216;08?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Early on Super Tuesday, McCain throws his West Virginia convention votes to Huckabee and pretty well seals the deal. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Early on Super Tuesday, McCain throws his West Virginia convention votes to Huckabee and pretty well seals the deal. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JLFuller</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/05/proof-huckabeemccain-in-cahoots-wheres-the-lie-meme-now/comment-page-1/#comment-12223</link>
		<dc:creator>JLFuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few months back I commented here that we should not underestimate the anti-Mormon hostility extant in our country. It is wide and it is deep. Even though a huge majority of Americans know next to nothing about us, they have been told so many half truths, lies and distortions that only some vague understanding of our perceived evils exists. They can&#039;t tell you why they dislike Mormons, they only know they do. It really gives credence to the saw &lt;em&gt;&quot;Don&#039;t confuse me with the facts. I have already made up my mind.&quot; &lt;/em&gt; 

I think Mitt Romney&#039;s campaign has raised that issue high enough so that &lt;em&gt;thinking&lt;/em&gt; Americans now recognize the bias for what it is. I am seeing more real attempts at understanding us. Maybe it is just because there are so many people watching as the Church fills the earth they have to decide if we &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; are a threat. Maybe raising the specter of a challenge to 2000 years of conventional Christian thought and practice has intrigued enough legitimate researchers that we see a re-thinking of who Mormons really are. We still remain a threat to the status quo, but a disinterested third party in-depth study over time may dislodge some of the knee-jerk anti-Mormons from positions of broad influence. If so, maybe the next Mormon who runs for president will be judged on his bona fides not his religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few months back I commented here that we should not underestimate the anti-Mormon hostility extant in our country. It is wide and it is deep. Even though a huge majority of Americans know next to nothing about us, they have been told so many half truths, lies and distortions that only some vague understanding of our perceived evils exists. They can&#8217;t tell you why they dislike Mormons, they only know they do. It really gives credence to the saw <em>&#8220;Don&#8217;t confuse me with the facts. I have already made up my mind.&#8221; </em> </p>
<p>I think Mitt Romney&#8217;s campaign has raised that issue high enough so that <em>thinking</em> Americans now recognize the bias for what it is. I am seeing more real attempts at understanding us. Maybe it is just because there are so many people watching as the Church fills the earth they have to decide if we <em>really</em> are a threat. Maybe raising the specter of a challenge to 2000 years of conventional Christian thought and practice has intrigued enough legitimate researchers that we see a re-thinking of who Mormons really are. We still remain a threat to the status quo, but a disinterested third party in-depth study over time may dislodge some of the knee-jerk anti-Mormons from positions of broad influence. If so, maybe the next Mormon who runs for president will be judged on his bona fides not his religion.</p>
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		<title>By: JLFuller</title>
		<link>http://www.article6blog.com/2008/02/05/proof-huckabeemccain-in-cahoots-wheres-the-lie-meme-now/comment-page-1/#comment-12222</link>
		<dc:creator>JLFuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ganging up is a legitimate tactic. That isn&#039;t the problem. The problem &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; Republicans don&#039;t like any of the candidates with sufficient zeal to coalesce early and provide a united front. It may indicate the angst we all feel towards Bush and the behavior of our party in Congress. It looks to me like classic blame game with so much finger pointing that we alienated each each other. We are not a united party. 

In fact, we are so fractured that we will loose the election in the fall. Too many people are looking to get even with the guys they think caused it all. There are ramifications to disunity and we are seeing it now. There is a price to pay for running up this monstrous debt. There is a price to pay for butchering the prosecution of the war. There is a price to pay for over-stretching our military. There is a price to pay for bridges to nowhere, Jack Abramoff, corrupt congressmen and a president who can&#039;t run, shoot and communicate. We want to be behind a uniting leader so we look for &lt;em&gt;somebody&lt;/em&gt; who can fix things but there isn&#039;t one. McCain is not the guy. Romney isn&#039;t the guy and neither is Huckabee. 

I don&#039;t know that Romney could ever have won. There is still too much anti-Mormonism in the country. For that you can thank the religious right and their &lt;em&gt;&quot;let&#039;s demonize the threat&quot;&lt;/em&gt; mentality. The deep south has always been a hot bed of anti everybody who doesn&#039;t look like, sound like, pray like and think like they do. That may be slowly changing but they aren&#039;t there yet. Like the fellow said, &lt;em&gt;&quot;There ain&#039;t nothing worse than a northerner unless it is a northerner who is a Mormon.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ganging up is a legitimate tactic. That isn&#8217;t the problem. The problem <em>is</em> Republicans don&#8217;t like any of the candidates with sufficient zeal to coalesce early and provide a united front. It may indicate the angst we all feel towards Bush and the behavior of our party in Congress. It looks to me like classic blame game with so much finger pointing that we alienated each each other. We are not a united party. </p>
<p>In fact, we are so fractured that we will loose the election in the fall. Too many people are looking to get even with the guys they think caused it all. There are ramifications to disunity and we are seeing it now. There is a price to pay for running up this monstrous debt. There is a price to pay for butchering the prosecution of the war. There is a price to pay for over-stretching our military. There is a price to pay for bridges to nowhere, Jack Abramoff, corrupt congressmen and a president who can&#8217;t run, shoot and communicate. We want to be behind a uniting leader so we look for <em>somebody</em> who can fix things but there isn&#8217;t one. McCain is not the guy. Romney isn&#8217;t the guy and neither is Huckabee. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that Romney could ever have won. There is still too much anti-Mormonism in the country. For that you can thank the religious right and their <em>&#8220;let&#8217;s demonize the threat&#8221;</em> mentality. The deep south has always been a hot bed of anti everybody who doesn&#8217;t look like, sound like, pray like and think like they do. That may be slowly changing but they aren&#8217;t there yet. Like the fellow said, <em>&#8220;There ain&#8217;t nothing worse than a northerner unless it is a northerner who is a Mormon.&#8221; </em></p>
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		<title>By: brimstan</title>
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		<dc:creator>brimstan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this blog and read it every day.  I appreciate the links you have connected me to including evangelicals for mitt.  In fact you have inspired me to start my own blog--buddhaformitt.blogspot.com.  I read something tonight that made me laugh and I thought you might appreciate a little lightness after chewing nails all day.


During these serious times, people of all faiths should remember these
four religious truths:

1. Muslims do not recognize Jews as God&#039;s chosen people.

2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian world.

4. Baptists do not recognize each other at Hooters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this blog and read it every day.  I appreciate the links you have connected me to including evangelicals for mitt.  In fact you have inspired me to start my own blog&#8211;buddhaformitt.blogspot.com.  I read something tonight that made me laugh and I thought you might appreciate a little lightness after chewing nails all day.</p>
<p>During these serious times, people of all faiths should remember these<br />
four religious truths:</p>
<p>1. Muslims do not recognize Jews as God&#8217;s chosen people.</p>
<p>2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.</p>
<p>3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the<br />
Christian world.</p>
<p>4. Baptists do not recognize each other at Hooters.</p>
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		<title>By: HaroldHutchison</title>
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		<dc:creator>HaroldHutchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No preamble needed.  The stuff here documents just why.

Face it: The GOP now has hung a huge &quot;Mormons Need Not Apply&quot; sign on the window of the Presidential nomination.

That&#039;s what has happened, and the GOP is going to have to deal with the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No preamble needed.  The stuff here documents just why.</p>
<p>Face it: The GOP now has hung a huge &#8220;Mormons Need Not Apply&#8221; sign on the window of the Presidential nomination.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what has happened, and the GOP is going to have to deal with the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More news of it being fact. Fox news reports:

&quot;But before Huckabee’s surprising turnaround in the second round, McCain delegates told FOX News they had been instructed by the campaign to throw their support to Huckabee.

McCain delegate John Vuolo said former Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer approached him and other McCain supporters at the convention and told them he had spoken to McCain, and that the best thing to do was to support Huckabee in the hope that Huckabee could beat Romney in this winner-take-all state.&quot;

at: http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/05/paul-eliminated-wva-gop-convention-voting-ends-without-winner/

2 against 1.  Now that is the kind of thing I&#039;d expect out of the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More news of it being fact. Fox news reports:</p>
<p>&#8220;But before Huckabee’s surprising turnaround in the second round, McCain delegates told FOX News they had been instructed by the campaign to throw their support to Huckabee.</p>
<p>McCain delegate John Vuolo said former Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer approached him and other McCain supporters at the convention and told them he had spoken to McCain, and that the best thing to do was to support Huckabee in the hope that Huckabee could beat Romney in this winner-take-all state.&#8221;</p>
<p>at: <a href="http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/05/paul-eliminated-wva-gop-convention-voting-ends-without-winner/" rel="nofollow">http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/05/paul-eliminated-wva-gop-convention-voting-ends-without-winner/</a></p>
<p>2 against 1.  Now that is the kind of thing I&#8217;d expect out of the Democrats.</p>
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