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December 21st 2006

Romney, Gay Rights, and Abortion

Mitt Romney's much-examined positions on gay rights and abortion, and his consistency on those issues, are political matters; but the two issues are so important to religious conservatives that we think it's appropriate for us to link to Dean Barnett's post today. Dean's perspective is important because he provides an "up close and personal" view of Romney's position on the issues and of Romney the man. As a young volunteer in Romney's 1994 Massachusetts Senate campaign, Dean was Romney's driver.

As is the case with most Barnett pieces, this one defies easy summary, so I won't excerpt any key paragraphs for you. As Glenn Reynolds often says, read the whole thing.

I will, however, quote these thoughts from the comments to Dean's post, because they made me chuckle:

I will not hold Romney's Mormonism agin 'im. I am evangelical and southern. I dislike the impression that we are stubborn to the point of shooting ourselves in the foot over something like this. I can understand the notion but I can't picture, when it gets right down to THE VOTE, evangelicals sitting it out or pulling the lever for any stinkin' Dem.

As for me, I want to encourage my fellow evangelicals to remember we are spiritually descended from Abraham. Abe was practical and wiley. He wouldn't refuse a smart deal unless it imperilled(?) his faith. I don't feel any threat to my faith coming from Mormons. Hot secular chicks, sure, but not Utah. The worst that I could see happening is that Mormons take over and force us all to start drinking Sprite.

 


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December 21st 2006

Today’s Reading List - December 21, 2006

The Mittinator?  OK - this link has almost nothing at all to do with the topic of this blog, but it made that sad excuse for a nickname come to mind and I could not resist.

I'm betting we'll be hearing from him soon.

How things are lining up in Michigan.

I agree, and yet it seems like a political loser.  I feel like as a candidate he ought to do the same picture in a new frame or something like that.  Lowell:  Yes, it's a mistake simply to adopt the Bush approach.  I bet we will see something different soon.  Romney's too smart to do otherwise.

WAIT! I though Mormons were "a cult" that did not respect the beliefs of others and were going to force us all into compliance?  What is amazing to me is there are those out there that will read this story as an opportunity to bash Mormon ideas as strange rather than note the cooperation and understanding it represents.  Lowell:  This is a pretty old controversy, long since resolved.  I will say, however, if after I die someone wants to vicariously be baptized a Catholic for me, I have no objection.  ;-)

This is fascinating.  A proposal in Poland to name Jesus "King" of the democracy.  That idea lies at the heart of the creedal Christian understanding of democracy and governance, I presume Mormon as well.  And yet to formalize the understandng in the documents of government would exclude those of non-Christ-centered faith, which is, I presume, the reason for the Roman Catholic Church's lack of support.  Who can forget all the Polish Jews killed in WWII?

Cal Thomas sounds a very interesting warning note.


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December 20th 2006

Today’s Reading List - December 20, 2006

Hugh Hewitt analyzes the big three and lobbies for the biggest boost talk radio could imagine.

David Saperstein takes a shot at the "Is America a religious nation?" question and ignores an eminently important fact: the "government square" is increasingly encroaching of the public square - religion MUST push back.

Henry Kissinger hooks up with McCain after talking with Romney.  Despite the fact that Iraq IS NOT Vietnam, the public is increasingly wanting to see it that way, and I am not sure Kissinger handled the end of that all that well.

Lowell:  I'm not sure any Republican presidential candidate wants to be seen too close to the architect of Vietnam and detente.

Romney and the new media.  Old news to these bloggers.

Lowell adds: We find an example of just how hard it seems to be for the MSM to find anything new to say about the Republican field in this numbingly familiar AP story:

This time, all three top-tier hopefuls - McCain, Giuliani and Romney - face challenges in winning over the critical constituency.

Although his voting record on social issues is largely in line with conservatives, McCain has caught flak for his involvement in averting a Senate showdown over the president's judicial nominees and his position that tough border security should be paired with an eventual path to citizenship for some illegal immigrants.

Romney, for his part, is a Mormon and hails from Massachusetts, a liberal bastion, both potential turnoffs for Bible Belt conservatives. In recent weeks, he has found himself having to explain inconsistencies in his record on gay marriage and abortion.

Giuliani, who was New York's mayor when terrorists struck the city, ranks high in popularity polls and is heralded for his response to the attacks. Yet, the former mayor supports gun control, same-sex civil unions and abortion rights, stands that run counter to a majority of the GOP conservative base.

Note that we don't see the words, "McCain, an Episcopalian who rarely attends church," or "Giuliani, a Catholic."  That Romney's religion is always mentioned is nothing new, or even necessarily a bad thing.  It's just a fact.


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December 19th 2006

Today’s Reading List - December 19, 2006

A decidely Mormon take on The Question.  Decent summary of where the issue has been, but its general tenor reveals Mormons as ignorant of Evangelicals as the other way around.   I'm wondering if there not ought to be some sort of conference or something?

Lowell:  Well, I must admit, we Mormons don't spend much time in Sunday school talking about comparative religion . . . a conference is not a bad idea at all.  Also, Meridian Magazine is just a popular slick magazine for Mormons, not a place to go for heavyweight writing on in any field– politics, religion, or culture.

Polling data.  Something's fishy - Gore and Clinton pulling exactly the same numbers?

Byron York at NRO on Romey's changing positions.  The more this meme keeps rolling, the more I am concerned about a potential religious angle.  The "anti-cultists" amongst Evangelicals are very fond of painting Mormons as "say anything" types.  That is to say, the basic theme is that Mormons say one thing until they have you hooked in and then they change their story.  Thus, I as an Evangelical, cannot really trust what my partner Lowell has to tell me about Mormons because that is just "the front."  If I only knew "what really goes on" behind the walls of the stakehouses, Temples and Tabernacles.

This kind of conspiracy thinking is routinely discharged as nonsense in so many areas (e.g. NASA never really landed on the moon….), but for some reason it sticks with very reasonable people when the "cult" charge is being leveled.

Certainly the recent attacks based on Romney's evolving positions feed into this mode of thought.  The trap here is interesting for it leaves a Mormon with "no way out" as it were.  They are presumed liars.  Can we really conduct business in this way and call ourselves a reasonable nation?

Lowell:  I think Romney has some work to do here.  He's no Rockefeller Republican, but he's not a movement conservative either.  I am not as worried as John that religion will enter the discussion  here.  I'm more worried that Romney's articulate style will come across as glib.  Once the MSM gets its teeth into a notion like that, it can take on a life of its own.

A Heritage Foundation paper on the positive impact of religion of society.  The conclusion:

A steadily increasing body of evidence from the social sciences demonstrates that regular religious practice benefits individuals, families, and communities, and thus the nation as a whole. The practice of religion improves health, academic achievement, and economic well-being and fosters self-control, self-esteem, empathy, and compassion.

Religious belief and practice can address many of the nation’s most pressing social problems, some of which have reached serious levels (e.g., out-of-wedlock births and family dissolution). Research has linked the practice of religion to reductions in the incidence of divorce, crime, delinquency, drug and alcohol addiction, out-of-wedlock births, health problems, anxiety, and prejudice. Faith-based outreach has been uniquely effective in drug addiction rehabilitation and societal re-entry programs for prisoners. Furthermore, the effects of religious belief and practice are intergenerational and cumulative. In a sense, they "compound the interest" of our social capital.

Allan Bergin, a research psychologist who received the American Psychological Association’s top award in 1990, summed up the impact of religion in his acceptance address: "Some religious influences have a modest impact whereas another portion seems like the mental equivalent of nuclear energy."

Note, no distinction is made in this piece between religions.  The positive effects would appear to be true if creedal or Mormon Christian, and these effects are what matter in matters of faith and poltics.  When it comes to matters of policy and governace, there appears to be no distinction.

Lowell:  Ironically, Allan Bergin, quoted just above, is an emeritus professor of psychology at  . . . BYU!  Yep, he's a Mormon too.


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December 18th 2006

Today’s Reading List - December 18, 2006

I spoke to some friends from Michigan this past week.  Boy, did they perk up at the mention of the name Romney.  Looks like the Detroit papers agree.

Sigh, It would have been fun.

This very brief blog post really worries me.  If it is going to be that rough and tumble, then there is little doubt in my mind that religion will be the tool of politics which perverts religion and takes it from its designed aims.

Sorry, MSM - times are changing and he wants to get the message out without your filter.

Anderson Cooper asks "What is a Christian?" with three very prominent such people.  In the context of that discussion which is about interacting with society and the world, and politics, I hear nothing that would exclude Mormons from the discussion under the label.  That is to say, that the large theological differences just do not come up in the context.  In the areas discussed, as I understand Mormon thought (Lowell, tell me where I am wrong, if I am) they are far closer to Dr. Land here than Jim Wallis is.  This is despite the fact that Land and Wallis share theology much more that with Mormons.  My point? - Mormons and Evangelicals are natural political allies.

Lowell:  On the issues discussed on the Cooper program, there is no daylight between Dr. Land and what Mormon leaders teach.  The "progressive" approach to Christianity advanced by Wallis and Hopkins would be quite foreign to most Mormons.  We do a great deal of humanitarian relief, but don't see it as the mission of the Church to effect political change, as we've blogged here before.

As George Will summed up over the weekend, things in Romney's yet unannounced (though the announce date now seems to be public) campaign had began to turn from "The Question" to politics as usual.  However, I guess spurred by the announcement of the announcement, a whole series of papers raised it anew.  Little new in any of it.  This Chicago Tribune piece does have an interesting rundown of non-Protestant candidates over the years.  The view from South Carolina, where The Question matters more than a lot of places, but again, nothing new.  Newsweek tells the same old story with a fascinating graphic.  Meanwhile, the Salt Lake Tribune notes a sort of Mormon backlash.

Lowell:  To those in the know, that Tribune article (and many others like it) bring a smile.  The writer, Peggy Fletcher Stack, was once the editor of (and an early moving force behind) Sunstone, a liberal Mormon-oriented journal often critical of the LDS Church and a favorite of politically liberal Mormons.  Peggy does not disclose her former editorship, and she pieces together this and many other articles with quotes from her personal friends and acquaintances, many of them colleagues or writers she knows from her Sunstone days.  (Disclosure:  I was once on the Sunstone masthead, I think as Director of Special Projects or something similar.  I was a terrible staffer and eventually quit — or was dropped, I don't recall– because I felt like the proverbial conservative square peg among people whose liberal views I did not share.)  Of Mormon Sunstone readers, I'd guess maybe 10% might vote for Romney.  They'd be much happier if Harry Reid were the Mormon candidate.  

Back on the issues, the Boston Globe says:

In Governor Mitt Romney's metamorphosis from social moderate to self-styled conservative presidential candidate

"Metamorphosis" - I like that, I'll take a guy that's changed, just not one that "flip-flops."  Of course, as Hugh Hewitt points out the piece is designed to show the metamorphosis as insincere, but if anyone can understand change, particularly change for the better, it is Evangelicals and hristians in general.

Newt's new mission - I am fascinated by this.  It's good in general, but it could also be a very smart, classy way to play The Question and set himself up as the conservative alternative.

Lowell:  One does wonder if there's any underlying cynicism here.  Newt's now trying to restore God to His proper place in American history?  If Newt's personal history were a little different his efforts in that arena would be much more credible.

When it comes to religion and politics and the difference between the parties, Buddy Laer hits a homer with this:

When faith doesn't come naturally to you but you need it to win votes, what do you do? Hire a faith advisor, of course!

Something for Evanglicals to think deeply about when they decide who to vote on based solely on religion.

Lowell updates:  Romney was on Special Report last Friday night (12-17-06), but it was a fairly short interview with Carl Cameron.  Two relevant excerpts:

On his faith: 

The name on my church is actually the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and I do believe in Jesus Christ is the son of God. But of course there are many others in our country that don’t believe that They believe in other faiths and whether that’s the Jewish religion or Muslim religion or others and they are entitled to do that. Look, the sixth article of the Constitution of the United States got it right. It said no religious test shall ever be required for qualification for office or public trust in these United States.

On same-sex marriage: 

“I want gay individuals to have equal rights in housing and equal rights in education. I don't believe in discrimination and I don't believe the American people do. That’s a fundamental principle. At the same time, just as fundamental is the principle that marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman. And to suggest somehow that those two things can’t co-exist, that respecting rights of people who think differently and make different choices in their life that that can't go together with preserving marriage is just not right.”

Also, this morning former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson, who is fond of GWB's "compassionate conservatism," writes about what he sees as the difference between two segments of the Republican Party:  "Antigovernment conservatives" and "the party of the governors:"

[T]he party of the governors. . . . is the party of Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida, who has improved the educational performance of minority students and responded effectively to natural disasters. It is the party of Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, who mandated basic health insurance while giving subsidies to low-income people. Neither of these men embrace big government; both show convincing outrage at wasteful spending. But they have also succeeded in making government work in essential government roles—not a small thing in a post-Katrina world.

I add these comments because Gerson also believed in Bush's faith-based inititiatives, something about which I remain skeptical.   Many religious conservatives, however, spend a lot of time thinking about the proper role of government in exercising compassion, and Gerson's comments are interesting in that regard.  It's an interesting read.


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December 15th 2006

Today’s Reading List - December 15, 2006

Sure was a lot of Romney talk on The Corner yesterday.  Of course that could have to do with the fact that NRO published a lengthy sit-down Q&A between K-Lo and the man.  Almost no mention of religion other than Mormons celebrate Christmas just like the rest of us.  I can attest to that, since I went to a Christmas party at Lowell's place last weekend.  Right out of Norman Rockwell. 

Lowell:  I loved this exchange from that interview:

LOPEZ: Will an exposé on Mormon Christmas celebrations hurt you in the primaries?

 

GOV. ROMNEY: This may sound strange to some, but my grandchildren will be eagerly awaiting presents to be delivered to their homes by a bearded man in a red suit led by a pack of flying reindeer. The lead reindeer, by the way, has a red light bulb for a nose — certainly a YouTube scandal waiting to happen.

The K-Lo interview is highly recommended.  I think it is the first response by Romney to the gay rights and abortion politics "flip-flop" questions that arose while he was in Asia.

By the way, I am occasionally asked by friends and colleagues whether Mormons celebrate Christmas.  Suffice it to say, the question always takes me by surprise; Mormons are very big on Christmas– and from a religious standpoint.  Anyone who knows anything about our faith knows this.

Anyway, in the conversation that followed, Rich Lowry thinks all the hub-bub on gay marriage, Log Cabin Republicans, etc, will pass without too much effect.  Can I just say, I find it extraordinarily refreshing that the discussion is on issues, NOT religion?  This is where it belongs.  As Rich noted earlier in the day, all most people know about Romney is that he is Mormon.  We certainly should know more than that about our candidates.

John Miller wonders points to polling that says McCain's age is as big a deal as Romney's religion.  Which allows K-Lo to make a very funny joke.

Elsewhere, some guy in Utah tries to parallel Romney and Keith Ellison.  This is where the idea of a "civil religion" and shared ethos matter.  Keith Ellison seems to be a good guy, but there are a lot of people killing a lot of other people in the name of his faith - that is definitely NOT a part of the civil religion and shared ethos.  I don't see that happening with Mormons, so the comparison breaks down pretty quickly.

Some staffing info.

Prominent Evangelical Richard Land joins the "On Faith" discussion on "Is America a religious nation?"

It is both inaccurate historically and inappropriate theologically to describe America as a “Christian nation.”

 

Historically, America was an attempt to establish a nation based broadly on Judeo-Christian values (“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights…”) and Enlightenment ideas of self-government. In 1798, John Adams, the nation’s second president, said, “Our Constitution was made for a moral and a religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.”

"Judeo-Christian values" is another excellent, if sometimes misused, term for the civil religion we have discussed here.  Adams was no evangelical as we mean the term today, but he was, at least publicly adherent to the civil religion.  [Lowell interjects:  Like many of the Founders, Adams' religious views defy easy description.  He was a religious man, according to his biographer David McCullough, and began life as a devout Congregationalist.  He later became a Unitarian, a faith that in the 18th century seems to have been practiced quite differently than it is now.  Adams also said:  "The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity, let the Blackguard Paine say what he will."] It is those shared values that matter in matters of politics and government, not, as Land observes, matters of theology, liturgy, or sacramental practice.  I have yet to find anything in modern Mormonism that does not comport with those values.

Brief Commentary Update:  Since last weekend the Romney "flip-flop" meme has been run ragged.  It's not really in the purview of this blog, but I just have to comment there is one heck of a difference between trying to hold two positions simultaneously (I was for the…, before I voted…) and changing one's mind.  We should hope all leaders progress and refine consistently in their views.  "Flip-flopping" is about trying to please everybody and having no actual position. 


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